Germiston Glasgow

Can anyone help me find pictures of Germiston in Glasgow. I am hoping someone has been around Germiston with a nice camera taking photographs of the places and the people. Please post a comment if you know anything about the history of Germiston. Some of what I write will be a little tongue in cheek, so be prepared to have that wee pinch of salt handy. Scroll down and enjoy!

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Saturday, December 09, 2006

Germiston House

I am intrigued by this place.
My memory of Germiston is of tenements and multi-story flats, bounded by railway lines and industry.
Of course once upon a time this was not so. I doubt if there will be anyone alive who can say that cliched phrase: "I remember when it was all fields".
Though I imagine in the early 20th Century, it probably was largely still fields and open space. Well from the little knowledge I have of the place it was probaly piggeries and whatever green space surrounded Germiston House..
I have been bugged for years as to the precise spot Germiston House stood and its orientation. I have seen various maps and pictures and I understand it probably stood in the area between Forge Street and what used to be Coll Street.
One account states that Germiston House was demolished in 1913, however there is a photograph, which has accompanying data stating that the picture (I will post lated) was taken in the 1920s. Another account states that it was demolished in 1926 to make way for a housing development.

Provan Gasworks

Provan Gasworks was bound by Germiston, Blackhill, the Monkland canal and Blochairn. What remains today (from online aerial mapping) seems largely to be the course of nature and two rather large gasometers which effectively welcome you to Glasgow as you drive in from the East on the M8 motorway.
But what was there before the 21st century?
What wider purpose did the area serve?
How many people were employed?
Were they from the immediate areas of Germiston, the Garngad and Blackhill?
Was it only as a producer of town gas, or was there a wider purpose?
...and if it was a producer of town gas, is this what led to the area being largely green/brownspace?

I am keen to know?

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Friday, October 27, 2006

Red Road - View from Germiston





Here is the view from Germiston to the North, showing the famous Red Road flats. Although these flats are earmarked for demolition, a memory of them (whether welcome or not) will be kept in the forthcoming film Red Road Directed by Andrea Arnold and starring Kate Dickie as Jackie; Tony Curran as Clyde; Martin Compston as Stevie; Nathalie Press asApril; Andrew Armour as Alfred; and Paul Higgins as Avery.

"Jackie (Kate Dickie) works as a CCTV operator. Each day she watches over a small part of the world, protecting the people living their lives under her gaze. One day a man appears on her monitor, a man she thought she would never see again, a man she never wanted to see again. Now she has no choice, she is compelled to confront him."

I don't know if this film is 'typical' of Glasgow. Any cinema using Glasgow as a backdrop tends to portray the place as a rough, hard place, where gangs roam and gangsters rule supreme - a place where everyone is a hard drinker. Not everyone agrees with this image of Glasgow. There are some who would rather distort the truth and have everything set in Woodside etc, just to get another stab (no pun intended) at any accolade remotely resembling City of Culture.

All this thinking does is perpetuate the habit of having working class social history and representation being given the undeserved body swerve. Let us hail the efforts of those who want to continue showing Glasgow as a 'hard' place and the hard lives people STILL lead, whether or not it is their own fault, or the fault of their parents, teachers, social workers, middle class professionals, Glasgow City Council, Buckfast, Evo-Stick. Glasgow Celtic, Glasgow Rangers, The Orange Lodge, Mods, Rockers, GYTO, Shamrock, catholics, protestants, Irish Immigration, heroin, Lanliq, the Barras, the Broo, Andrew Carnegie, St Mungo and all other things that have helped or hindered the ordinary Glaswegian to succeed or fail

The workiing classes can certainly make history, but it is rarely written in their words

Moving on - I look forward to seeing this film, although I have no idea if it will be released in the cinema, or if I will have to wait until it is shown on channel 4. Whether or not I get to enjoy it on the Big Screen, I will probably end up buying it on DVD from ebay or Amazon. If anyone has seen the film, please post a reply to this, with your thoughts. Thanks

Wednesday, September 20, 2006

Blochairn Quarry

This has been a real stumbling block for me. Please, if you know anything about Blochairn Quarry, please post some info by clicking on the word 'comments' below.. Thank you.

A snippet, a clue, "...
Denholm & Co, Contractors, Blochairn Quarry ,. Glasgow for water works extension. A1105.010. 1911. Minute of agreement between Denny & Dunipace ..."

...possibly a sandstone and/or sand quarry...

would any of the local tenements have been built from stone quarried from Blochairn??


Wednesday, August 23, 2006

Germiston Glasgow

Germiston Glasgow


Not much is known about Germiston Glasgow by those living away from Glasgow.
It gets passed by, by those travelling from west of Garngad to anywhere to the east of Blackhill. On the west to east route through Royston Road it would seem as a row of tenements to the left and old industry to the left. Travelling from the North through the blind tunnel towards Garngad, again it is just passed by.
It is a stumbling block for many of those attending to geneaology matters, and wishing to flesh out their family tree. It is neither the Garngad or Blackhill. It is surrounded by a no-mans land to the north and also the south: in the north an area once occupied by the Glasgow and Garnkirk, railway but now a single rail track, divides Germiston from Balornock and the Red Road flats, which will soon be no more. To the south there are the remains of Blochairn Quarry and Provanmill Gasworks.
Whilst requesting some maps of the area at the The Mitchell Library (The largest public reference library in Europe it would seem) the young lady assisting, stared blankly at me than enquired if I was referring to the small village in the North East of Glasgow.
At this point I was unsure if, in her Milngavie (old gaelic for snooty upstart: PRON. MULGUY) or perhaps Byres Road accent, she was taking the proverbial. Perhaps she had never been further East than Charing Cross, (except maybe to Queen Street Station to catch a train through for the Edinburgh Fringe Festival) and genuinely thought Glasgow's East End consisted of a smattering of sleepy villages and dreamy hamlets. For those of you unfamiliar with the East End of Glasgow, it does indeed consist of a smattering of village-like areas, but it is ill-mannered to refer to them as such. It is proper and correct to refer to these areas by the old Gaelic name of 'schemes' which is pronounced in the same way as the identically spelt English word schemes. Another similarity the 'scheme' has to the village is the notion of the Village Idiot. The village idiot is a real entity. Every village has one. Again in the East End of Glasgow we must respect the Gaelic tradition and refer to the village idiot as a 'bam' or 'bampot' Now, Glaswegians, and indeed most Scots get a little peeved at the idea the English have of being superior to us in most areas of life. However it is in this area under current discussion where us Glaswegians have got one up on those to the South of Hadrian's Wall. Where each English Village only has ONE idiot, each of our Glaswegian schemes has a fair few bams. In fact some of the schemes are thought to be wholly inhabited by bams. So if there are any English reading this with notions of grandeur, we have another Old Gaelic saying in Glasgow, usually capitalised : GIRFUY, (pronunciation: gerritritefukenupye) the meaning when heard in guttural Glaswegian tones is fairly self-evident.
There are a number of theories as to why each Glasgow 'village' has had one up on the English in having more than its fair share of village idiots (GAELIC 'schemie bams') The main theory is that Glasgow Corporation of old was under the impression that the Schemie Bam was a product of the Gaelic speaking Teuchter tribe from the North and similarly Gaelic speaking Irish Tribe from an Island over the Irish sea, forced to descend on Glasgow looking for food, work and housing (the reasons why are complex, but probably have something to do with a band of rich Anglo/Scots landownery type people, who would sell their own Granny to make a fast buck).
Anyway, these people were housed in something called a 'tenement' (GAELIC for shite-hole, though modern 21st century gaelic roughly translates to overpriced-shite-hole-in-the-west-end). Many of these tribespeople were killed off when they were forced to fight on behalf of the English Aristocracy in two 20th century wars. The ones that were left tended to stick together, help each other and in general have what is known as a "strong sense of community" - in Gaelic there are many words for this concept, but the most over-used ones are 'Gorbals' and 'Toonheed'. This 'idiotic' behaviour was seen as dangerous. And as it was idiotic behaviout, it was naturally assumed that they were all idiots i.e. BAMS.
Having too many bams in one place could cause all sorts of unwanted solidarity and it was decided to split them up under the pretence of needing thier living-space to build a RINGROAD. (RINGROAD is GAELIC and roughly translates as "very, very ,very ,very very long and costly project-spanning-two-centuries").
The BAMS were all split up - some manged to escape the indignity of having their homes and communities flattened by going to a place called North America (OLD GAELIC, nordh amerigha which translates into the question "if your nostalgia and love for Glasgow is so fucking strong then why don't you come back?") The rest were shipped out to the new villages or schemes. This is a very important junture in the history of Glasgow. Due to this phenomena of trying to disperse the bams and break up their communitys, there was an undercurrent of thought that they were not bams at all, but just decent people in need of a fresh start. This fresh start inspired many of these scheme-dwellers to go forth and set up new communities. Two notable communities, again follow the tradition of being named in Gaelic: Bishopbriggs, which translates into "he who can survive on spiced-ham" and Stepps, which translates similarly into "he who can also survive on spiced-ham". Anyway, move ahead thirty or forty years to present day: many of the scheme-dwellers have moved on. The REAL bams of last century, who were content with keeping the working class divided by running with gangs, slashing each other and robbing, BUT at least looking after their own, have given way to the modern BAM, the ned, the schemie. The modern bam, has much in common with the Anglo/Scots landowners and aristocrats, who unsettled his ancestors, in that he too would sell his granny, but more likely for a Buckfast rather than a fast buck.

Anyway, back to the wee lassie in the Mitchell library. She could be forgiven for thinking along the lines of Germiston being a little village though, as Germiston is quiite secluded, as well as being cut off to the north and south, the east and west also has definite boundaries, in the form of parks, football grounds, railway lines. I stand to be corrected on many of these geographical matters though as I have been away from the area for a long time.
I understand now that the quarry I played in as a child has been landscaped and forms part of an industrial estate. It would seem tenements to the North and Northside of Forge street have been demolished to make way for pretty little houses, perhaps more fitting to the 'village' scenario' of the posh librarian.

BTW if yer fae the West End, Milngavie or any of them places, I don't really think yir aw snooty - that wiz jist a wee stereotype fur effect. Efter aw its no' aw us eastenders that are short ae a few strands u DNA, but admittedly, aye, wur probly mer Glesga than Glasgow, and proudly so!

Tuesday, August 15, 2006

Things to investigate in Germiston

The history of...
Provanmill Gasworks
The railway system that encircled Germiston, mostly industrial, I think.
There is an abandoned semi-circular tunnel. Will I be foolish enough to walk as far as is possible into it?
The piggeries. I believe there were two. One at Darnick Street and one where the current Coll Place flats are.
Housing in the area - tenement flats to the west; houses to the east; multi stories to the north, one having been demolished. All the tenements on the north side of Germiston have been demolished.
The quarry at the 'Gemmy'
Garngad/Germiston railway station
Blochairn Steelworks
Various industries on the Petershill Road side of Germiston.
Local shops, pubs, etc.
Workers cottages to the south of Royston Road,
Can anyone add to this list?

Visiting Germiston

Right I am planning a wee visit to Germiston.
I am actually planning on spending a long time there to do a wee bit of local history research as well as some family tree stuff. I have recently found out I had a relative stay there long before I was born and I am quite keen to learn more. The local history is could be quite deep; the place has been surrounded by industry and Iam hoping that some of those industries' records have been kept (by any still in existence) or at least archived somewhere like the Mitchell Library.
Now I have to ask a number of practical questions, which might determine the length of my stay. The obvious one being WHERE do I stay. I some how feel there won't be too many hotels in the Germiston area of Glasgow - perhaps there may be a Bed & Breakfast or perhaps I can rent a room , bedsit or a wee flat? Another thing I am wondering is do I bring my car, travel by public transport, buy a car when I get there?
Who knows I might even buy a house or property and just settle 'back hame'

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